My big debut to the Commissioners on Wednesday came after sitting politely for an hour and a half listening to the proceedings. It was finally time for citizen participation in the form of three-minute timed comments.
An old man with a cane hobbled up to the microphone and began a (somewhat) coherent speech on the plight of the homeless in the County and his request that the Board proceed quickly with the budget approval. At three minutes, Commissioner Conan Smith called time and the man hobbled back to his chair. It was what happened during those three minutes that boiled my blood.
As soon as the gentleman stood, nearly every member of the Board turned to their neighbor and began (what looked like) personal conversations. With the exception of a few moments searching in her purse, Commissioner Kristin Judge appeared to be the only person paying the least bit of attention.
During this time, I couldn’t help but remember the 20 minutes I spent listening as several Board members waxed poetic on their hard work creating the budget, the difficulties they faced, and how grateful they were to each other and the County staff for accomplishing the daunting task. The whole time I remember thinking, “Wouldn’t a personalized thank you note be a little less self-serving and a little more meaningful?”
Needless to say, I found the behavior of the Board quite appalling. I had a feeling this gentleman was the type who spoke frequently at meetings, but I believe everyone deserves respect when they speak. As I looked at others around me, I saw they saw this situation as status quo.
Realizing that no one else planned to comment, I immediately approached the Board and introduced myself. I mentioned that I was happy to see that they troubled themselves to actually look at me, given that earlier they were too busy chatting to listen. I was sure to point out the separate twosomes to assure them I had paid attention to their behavior. Chastising them for their rudeness, I said it was disgraceful that they couldn’t pay attention for three minutes and that as representatives, all citizens deserve their respect.
Needless to say, many of the Commissioners spoke with me after the meeting was adjourned. First up was Conan Smith. He explained that while he understood the nature of my comments, he wanted to put some context behind the Board’s behavior. To paraphrase the conversation:
He explained that the gentleman comments at every opportunity, at every single meeting.
My response: So? That’s his right.
He then explained that the gentleman has slandered both him and his wife in the past, as well as other Board members (sadly, no specific examples were provided.)
My response: He did not do anything like that tonight. His comments were about the homeless and the budget.
Comm. Smith then asked me for my opinion on the limits of free speech.
My response: There is a time limit which should be enforced. Beyond that, unless someone engages in profanity or slander, they should be afforded the right to speak. In the instance of slander, I am referring to someone saying things like “Your wife is a sl**, etc.” Beyond that, I don’t think free speech should be limited.
Soon Commissioners Ping and Prater joined the conversation. Comm. Ping was quite persistent and adamant in defending her actions. While Comm. Smith was at least apologetic, Comm. Ping was focused on assuring me that the gentleman deserved everything he got. In fact, she gave him a ride home one time and the next week he slandered her at the Board meeting because she’s a Republican!!! (The nerve!)
I don’t know about you but I was raised that you help others because it’s the right thing to do, not because you expect some sort of quid pro quo.
Becoming tired of the excuses, I turned the conversation to my appointments to the Community Action Board and Workforce Development Board. Learning that it would likely be tabled, I decided to leave as it had grown late and I needed to pick up my dog.
Since Wednesday, I’ve had time to reflect on the situation and I feel even more strongly I was correct. Why?
A few thoughts:
Imagine it is your first Board meeting and you came to address the Board about a recent problem you had with County Administration. There are 10-15 representatives from the County Admin. sitting to your right. You see an elderly gentleman get up to speak and observe the Board’s behavior. You’re thinking, “Gee, they don’t even care. They’re not even listening. Do I really want to get up there and tick-off all these people sitting next to me when it won’t even matter?” You decide not to speak. This rudeness discourages others from expressing themselves because they “don’t know the context.”
As far as I’m concerned, someone can use their three minutes to extol the virtue of their dog Fido. It is their right. On-topic, off-topic, clear headed arguments or senseless rambling, everyone should be respected during their three minutes. Just pretend that you’re listening…I don’t care. Don’t behave out and out rudely.
Specifically regarding the gentleman, he looked to be in his 80s, probably doesn’t have family around (considering he’s had rides home,) and speaking at meetings probably gets him out of bed in the morning. Show some compassion and understanding.
My 90 year-old great-grandmother made nasty remarks to family members, would sometimes tell outright lies, or make a racist comment. Sometimes you need to realize that the battle is lost before it’s begun. My family was not going to change her and no one will change this gentleman. Let it go in one ear and out the other, then move on with your business. Because among all those comments you don’t agree with and are not interested in hearing, there may be a few pearls of wisdom.
So, what do you think? Was the Board justified in their actions? When do you think free speech should be limited at public meetings? Was/Is my response appropriate? Thoughts? Comments?
11.20.2009
Part 2: My big debut: "Your behavior is disgraceful!"
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Janelle Baranowski
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Janelle,
ReplyDeleteConan Smith was the Commissioner who spearheaded the movement this year to LIMIT speakers' time at the County Commissioners' meeting, just to keep Tom Patridge (that gentleman) from speaking at length. No one likes to be berated or slandered, but citizens have the right to speak before public bodies and speak their minds.
Your observations are of the uninitiated and speak volumes about the sheer audacity with which certain CC treat constituents. It's time for the likes of Conan Smith to quit padding their resumes and move on.
I found it most interesting that none of the Commissioners I spoke to actually gave examples of the "slander" that they encountered. When describing my perceptions of free speech limits, I believe I used the word "whore," not "slut." Either way, the point of the offensive term was to emphasize that slander is not criticism, it's outright overly-excessive lies meant to destroy one's reputation.
ReplyDeleteThank you for coming to the meeting. You are right to assert that we should be respectful of Mr. Partridge no matter what he says. If he chooses to read the phone book, that is his right as a citizen and we signed up to listen. No excuses . . . I try to be attentive to Mr. Partridge, but I wasn't during that particular opportunity.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I would urge you to look at the history of this particular situation. In January, we changed our rules to afford the public less time to address the Ways and Means Committee of the BOC.
The record of that vote can be found here: http://www.ewashtenaw.org/government/clerk_register/minutes/rop/year_2009
Click on the January 7, 2009 meeting and the key vote is recorded on page 3 of 37 in the minutes. As you can imagine from my tone here or the coverage in the AA Observer, I thought it was a mistake to limit public comment further - we have precious little of that as it stands.
Jeff Irwin
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Thanks for the link Comm. Irwin. It's interesting to note that the time limit was originally 5 minutes, which was apparently too long to hold the attention span of the Board.
ReplyDeleteHere is the meeting record for interested readers:
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Comm. Smith seconded by Comm. Bergman offered the following amendment:
Article XII. Section C. Numbers 2 and 10 – Amend the time period from five minutes to three minutes for Citizen Participation Proposed addition of Article XII.
Section E. – Comments from the public during Citizen Participation shall be germane to items on the agenda or the commenter shall be ruled out of order.
Amendments accepted as friendly.
Comm. Irwin offered the following amendments:
Article XII. Section C. Numbers 2 and 10 – Amend the time period from three minutes to five minutes for Citizen Participation
Article XII. Section E. – Strike from rules
Amendments failed due to lack of a second.
Roll call vote: YEAS: 7 NAYS: 2 (Comms. Irwin and Sizemore). ABSENT: 2 (Comms. Gunn and Peterson).
Motion carried.
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I can't believe Section E was approved! I will be at the next Board Meeting and plan on mentioning my opposition to this.
I'm interested in whether the private conversations being held while Mr. Partridge was speaking were in direct violation of the Open Meetings Act. If they were conducting business during these whisper fests, they were in fact in violation.
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